Joy For Jane: Progression

zerocontrolandtakemedown:

karinavisser:

ohaityler:

feministsunitedoncampus:

crassygrass:

lavender-labia:

lovemelovely:

Citi Bank passed a copy of this handout to everyone in their HR department.  This is few key “tips” for women to keep in mind to be taken seriously and succeed at work.

The worst thing about this is that I’m not fucking surprised. This is the same company who fired a woman last year for being “too attractive”.

I’ve come to realise it’s best to have non-existent expectations for the world, then things like this don’t make you quite so upset. 

NOPE

NO NEED FOR FEMINISM HERE

OUR JOB IS DONE

wow

i cant even tell if its telling you not to do these things or to do them. either fucking way, this is disgusting. fuck you citi bank.

this is interesting… I don’t think it actually sabotages our careers, but they’ve definitely made a few good points. for example, woman who groom themselves in public or how woman can be naive, they apologies to often, and how they stay behind the scenes (for the most part). there is nothing wrong with being feminine, but when in an aggressive environment, you must adapt. legally blond doesn’t exist in the real world. now for the rest of it; asking permission,smiling inappropriately, or speaking softly, well those are slightly bull shit. women actually tend to speak to much, though we are much more respectful of one another (hence the ‘asking permission’). lastly, the most important part is how you sit and having a firm handshake. anyway, I’ve got mixed feelings for this.

The very fact that they even handed this out is insulting. Then to address what is on the memo?…. well that is just common knowledge. I have never heard of anything like this before. If any of the women in this firm think they are going to be taken seriously after this then they might as well quit now. I cannot believe a company is being run like this in the 21st century. 

Men are also subject to ALL of the above. Some of my worst handshakes have been from men, and some of the biggest groomers I know are men. Some of the most outspoken people I know are women, and some of the most vocally creative people I know are women. See where I’m going with this?

I am also pretty sure a man wrote this, but I will look into that later. One of the most offensive points on this memo precedes a terrible grammatical error that is so ironic I almost had to pinch myself. REALLY? First, they say, “Men don’t ask permission, they inform.” Which I won’t even bother elaborating on, but point seven then says, “when delivering a message, therefore YOU ARE NOT GET TAKEN SERIOUSLY”. Are you kidding me…?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I am supposed to take advice from what they have communicated is some man that cannot even take the time to edit this piece of advice that has been so graciously given to me? YEAH RIGHT.

I am dying to know the reaction of their employees.

I really have mixed emotions about this piece. When I first read the heading, I thought “Oh okay, this could be interesting.” 

Looking at the actual tips…hmm, I really think they could of worded it better. Or perhaps dealt with it better. Getting a female in a more senior position in the company to hold a workshop with other females doesn’t sound like too offensive of an idea.

I can kind of see the need for this. In fields where women are not as predominant, i.e. science, engineering, banking, math etc., women do in fact tend to be a little more withdrawn. I suppose it’s because they are a minority, but I also think it has to do with the company atmosphere. In fact, I feel like my point holds stronger in older companies than newer ones (i.e. Facebook, Tumblr etc.) that have a more updated outlook.

It’s a really fine line that has to be walked. Either you’re too assertive for your own good, or you’re good a.k.a staying in that mediocre position forever. That is, if you’re playing in the big leagues.

Also, I’m going to sound like a total dick cause I can’t bother to find a more elegant way to word it, but there are some females that don’t think they sound ditzy and that they’re really progressive and moving forward but in actuality they look like dimwits. Males do the same, but it’s scrutinized much more heavily for females (however, I’m only observing this from university, so the scope is very limited and does not reflect my thoughts on women in corporations).

Anyway, the only way to fix things like this (in my opinion) is by playing the game. More females should work their way to the top and when they’re in a position of power, they should help move things forward.

I do see some of my female classmates being more timid than my male classmates. FYI my class is 94% male and 6% female.

Note: Point 7 is just stupid …